Craig Judge, Michael Grohowski, Robert Muller (Meeting Times: Monday - Wednesday 11am - 4pm Eastern)
Monday, June 11, 2012
Craig: Today I continued my decipherment of Stanza 4.4 and found words for the recorded sound ELOWICHIK Vol. 4 p. 8-9 ALEM and Vol. 1 p. 3 ACHAK. I started the decipherment for the next word of ELMUSICHIK but I did not find any matches going through all of the E selections in all 8 Volumes and I also started searching through the other vowels as well; mainly for a word to match ELM as breaking the word down into syllables seemed a better option, even though I did look for a word to match ELMUSICHIK as a whole. On a side note, I will not be in tomorrow or Wednesday due to my Capstone paper is due for the Senior Seminar class on Thursday and I would like to perfect this paper to receive a good grade in the class. I will make up the time missed.
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Craig, Mike, & Robert
ReplyDeleteRe: 4.4
Phrase 1
Your selections for the first phrase seem correct:
Original English = They having died,
Recorded phrase = Ango melchik
Lenape words = Ango melchat 4.12, 6.63 1
Old Norse words = Engi mi kill 2
Norse/English = not many 3
Paraphrase = "A few"
1. Vowels interchangable. k-t in same cluster.
2. Sherwin's choice seems not correct.
3. Norse/English words are not similar to original.
Phrase 2,
Your search for "el" did not yield Lenape words from Sherwin.
So, I suggest that the Moravians might have written "el" when the better Lenape sound might have been "ei"
"Eiowichik" has already been deciphered as "eiowchick" in 3.5
(See Maalan Aarum in Frozen Trail web site.)
Original English = The hunters.
Recorded phrase = elowichik
Lenape words = ei-ow chekee 1.45, 5.25
Old Norse words = eiga sterkr
Norse to English = has (violent) strength
Paraphrase (Idiom) "Hunter"
Reviewing 3.5 and this stanza, it appears that "el" was often recorded by the Moravians for "ei-ow" syllables.
Also "Mus" syllables usually refer to "swampy" words, which do not seem to fit between "A few hunters" and a meeting.
So consider that there must be another vowel for "Mus."
The first vowel to check might be "o."
When you study the "mos" words, one word that appears (1.109) is "MOSOGQUEHTEAU," which has:
the second "o" where the Moravians wrote "i,"
a "GQUEHT" syllable that the Moravians may have
thought sounded like the "chik" they knew,
ending vowels which were often dropped,
and definitions including "join of put together" concept.
"A few hunters had put together a meeting" seems to describe the pictograph better than "They having died…"
Phrase 3. (to be completed).
Original English = About to depart
Recorded phrase = el mus i chik
Lenape words = ei-ow
Old Norse words = eiga
Norse to English = had
Paraphase
Phrase 4 TBD
Original English =
Recorded phrase =
Lenape words =
Old Norse words =
Norse to English =