Tuesday, May 29, 2012

5/29/12
Craig: I went back and re-worked my 4.2 Stanza Drokvaett Scores for both Lenape and the Old Norse with still good results, but if anyone finds mistakes please let me know as I will surely fix them.
Key -- Alliteration (        ) will be underlined and rhymes will be in quotation marks ("")
Lenape
S          w          S          w          S          w
"wa"           "pa"          "lla"         new          "a"          sit

"a"          mag          "a"          mek         yu          ke

          "pu"          "yew"          we          mi          mik         .

Alit---3/6  Rym 4/6 = 7/6= 117%

Old Norse
S          w          S          w          S          w
ver          "pa"          "la"          at          new          "a"

si          id            meg            n          mok          rek

"ja"          "thaa"          hv          eim          meg          ir

Alit 2/6   Rym 3/6= 5/6 =83%

Also, today I started stanza 4.3 which reads: "Akhomenis michihaki wellaki kundokanup"  "While they were searching for the Snake Island, that great and fine land."  I started searching for Akhomenis in all 8 volumes to no avail so I broke Akhomenis up into three parts Akho Men Is and so far I have discovered some promising words for Akho the best so far being Ak8 from vol. 2 p. 4 (8 = oo,  so akoo).  I then began to search for Men but was only able to get through Volume 1 so far with monat on page 107 being the best choice.

Mike:

(Mike)
Archeological Evidence of Vikings in North America
According to Anthropologist Karri Springer, there are many stories that relate to the Vikings coming to North America. Over the centuries, many have come forward with evidence that yield proof of Viking existence in North America. However, most of this evidence is seen as invalid and considered to be elaborate hoaxes created by people with a lot of local pride. Examples of Viking evidence that is commonly debated is the Kensington Runestone, the Newport Tower, Dighton Rock. Scientific research commonly classifies these examples as hoaxes. However, Karri Springer, in her publication “The Fact and Fiction of Vikings in America” gives evidence of North American Viking remains that are not commonly labeled as hoaxes. According to Springer, a Viking coin was found at the Goddard prehistoric Native American site. This Viking coin dates back to 1070 A.D. This coin suggests trade among the Vikings and the Native Americans. There is also evidence that northern Native Americans had chess sets with European-dressed figurines. Furthermore, Thule villages yield evidence of iron usage (Springer, 66). Native Americans must have obtained their iron artifacts from the Vikings because the Vikings were the only foreign culture with the ability to have contact with the Native Americans. Springer implies that the most impressive evidence of Vikings in North America comes from the L’Anse aux Meadows site in Newfoundland. This is an actual Viking settlement in North America that is the home to eight walled structures and hundreds of Viking artifacts. Springer says that the radiocarbon date for this site is 1000 A.D. The artifacts found in Newfoundland are also very similar to the Viking artifacts of Greenland (Springer, 67). Viking sagas also tell stories of explorations on foreign lands to the west.
It is believed that the Vikings had increased their range of travel around 1,100 years ago. Due to the prosperity of their culture and warming trends, it is quite possible that the Vikings had migrated westward and established settlements in North America. Viking sagas talk about a place called Vinland, a place beyond Greenland where few have ever gone. Most places in these sagas can be identified; however, Vinland has never been able to be identified. However, according to a Canadian documentary posted on YouTube, Vinland is described in the sagas as a place full of wild grapes. The wild grapes discussed in the sagas could only be found in the eastern seaboard of North America (The Vinland Mystery Documentary). In 1960, indisputable proof of Vikings in North America came to light at L’Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland, Canada. Several Norse Viking pieces and clear Icelandic- style house foundations gave proof positive that Vikings had indeed landed, and briefly settled, in North America 500 years before Columbus.

Sources:
Springer, Karri. "The Fact and Fiction of Vikings in America." University of Nebraska: Department of Anthropology. Jan. 1999. Web. 29 May 2012. <http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1123&context=nebanthro>.
THE VINLAND MYSTERY. Youtube. National Film Board of Canada, 29 Jan. 2010. Web. 29 May 2012. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4v9x2HYxcc>.

Documentary:
http://www.nfb.ca/film/vinland_mystery/
This short documentary depicts the search, discovery and authentication of the only known Norse settlement in North America - Vinland the Good. Mentioned in Icelandic manuscripts and speculated about for over two centuries, Vinland is known as "the place where the wild grapes grow" and was thought to be on the eastern coast between Virginia and Newfoundland. In 1960 a curious group of house mounds was uncovered at l'Anse aux Meadows in northern Newfoundland by Drs. Helge Ingstad and Anne Stine Ingstad of Norway. Added to the United Nations World Heritage List, l'Anse aux Meadows is considered one of the most important archaeological sites in the world.



4 comments:

  1. CRAIG

    I suggest the phrase AKHOMENIS was originally composed of these syllables:

    A KH0 ME NIS
    | KA MA |__use first syllable of word on 1.124*
    | |____|_____6.166 use first definition.
    |____8.132, illustrates the use of "A" as "AT."

    *(The second syllable seems to be missing. The Drottkvaett format may help us determine if it is.)

    Warning, The Moravians were oppressed with snakes (they go A(s)Kue). Anytime the English says "snakes" or the Lenape word is spelled "AK-," you will have a difficult decipherment. AK might be ACC-, or A KA--, or something else.

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    1. I looked in these places Vol.1 p.124, Vol.6 p.166, Vol. 8 p.132 and I could not locate the KA MA listed above on any... am I reading these wrong (1.124,6.166, 8.132). But until you get back to me on this I will continue with my decipherment process with what I have so far.

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  2. CRAIG, MIKE, and ROBERT,

    When I suggested changing the vowels in "AKHOMENIS" to "A-KAMA-NIS" I was reminded that we should review the "WORD DECODING" section of the EVIDENCE for GREENLAND and AMERICA pre-HISTORY post.

    THEN I discovered that the Evidence for Greenland And America pre-HISTORY link was incorrect.

    So I fixed that. Now you should get the correct evidence section.

    The post can be accessed in the APPENDIX via the Lenape Migration Topics.

    When you get to the correct post, do a FIND for WORD DECODING. Word decoding is nearly the last section.

    Notice the cluster of consonants that speakers may be saying and translators may be recording. In most cases there may be two or more constants that we must check before we give up on finding a word that matches the recorded sound.

    So, instead of 17 places to look, we may have to look 68 places, before we can conclude the recorded sound is not in Sherwin.

    The four groups of vowels at the bottom of the lists basically mean that "VOWELS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE."

    "H" is not shown in the lists. "H" is a rush of air that may or may not be recorded by a translator. Many times it can be ignored.

    Thus within the guide lines "AKHOMENIS" might be "A-KAMA-NIS," but "A-KHOPE-KIS" would not be acceptable, because the consonants substitution is not acceptable.

    Let me know if you have difficulty getting to WORD DECODING, of if you do not understand it.

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    1. I actually did some of the word decoding yesterday as well for AKHOMENIS, yet I only checked for the first two letters in all 8 volumes but I will go back and see how many different variations I can make of AKHOMENIS and check for all of those in the Sherwin, but if that is not conclusive I will just continue where I left off yesterday. Also on a side note while searching for AKHOMENIS I may have found the next word on accident MICHIHAKI, which would be in Volume 4 place names.

      Craig

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